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RuMe Bags - Early Earth Day- 04.21.08

rumeuse1.jpgHappy Early Earth Day (it’s tomorrow) - we have a sneak peek from the girls at Delight who are touting this new bag line as the next big thing in the reusable bag market. They were even nice enough to send over a set for me to play with early to share my thoughts… (so my pics of it in comparison to others, on the next page!). These new RuMe bags are larger than any of the others i’ve come across, which can be good and bad… good: they hold more in less bags! bad: they make me look like a midget when carrying them full… while they are also lightweight - their material is a bit on the crunchier side (mom of the NotEmpire, and our official reusable bag tester explained the difference as… the envirosax felt more like an umbrella material, whereas the RuMes were a bit more like a raincoat)… but i do like the velcro strap that ties these together, and that it hangs INSIDE, unlike the envirosax which leave the button dangling as you carry the bag. Anyhow…. there are two sets of colors, the “Sillicon Valley” greys and blacks, and the “Spring in New York” set of colorful brights. See below for more pics of these in context!

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Also noteworthy: (excerpt from the RuMe site)

RuMe’s premier product, the reusable RuMe Bag, is designed and packaged following a no-waste philosophy and all RuMe products are manufactured in South Korea under strict Fair Trade policies and standards including, but not limited to:

* A fair, living wage for all factory employees (2007 per capita GDP of South Korea is estimated at USD $24,600 per year by the CIA Fact Book).
* Employees have ample meal breaks, are not obligated to work overtime and employees may unionize.
* The factory is modern, clean, well lit and has emergency protocols in place.

RuMe’s manufacturing partner in South Korea belongs to the Fair Trade Commission.

Here are my comparison pics!
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27 Notes

Yowsers! I so want one

----- Lazarou 21.04.08 17:07

These are the best copies of Envirosax I have ever seen. Ask the girls on Delight.com where they got the picture of the bags in the back of the car from, I sent it to them for the Delight site for Envirosax. Amazing how the picture now appears on the Remu site. When I first looked at this site today, I thought I was looking at Envirosax. Whatever happened to original thought. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Regards

Mark

----- mark 21.04.08 23:20

Wait - doesn’t Delight.com sell Envirosax too? What is this guys problem? I work in retail, and I’ve NEVER heard of a vendor publicly ripping on one of their clients. Very poor form.
I was going to leave a comment on how lovely the RuMe Bags are, but now I want to say that if this is how Envirosax represents themselves as a company, then you can count one customer who wont be buying their product or purchasing it for my store.
Hang in there RuMe! (and Delight!)

----- Sarah 22.04.08 07:18

Mark from Envirosax right? I’m going to have to agree with Sarah. Anyone who rips on their vendors and does it publicly just shows the poor quality of Envirosax in general. The Rume bags are not a copy…they’re a better bag than Envirosax. Don’t be so bitter Mark. Someone made a better quality, better everything bag before you did. You shouldn’t rain one peoples parades -including people how sell your bags- Nice one. Power to the Rume and Go Delight.com!- love your stuff! (minus one now).
BK

----- BK 22.04.08 14:39

Thank you Mark for bring it to my attention that not only are you rude when a college student asks a few questions about Envirosax (for a school final), but that your rude to everyone! I emailed Rume for some information and they were so nice! I can’t wait to get my Rume’s. maybe you should take some notes.
BK

----- Brianna 22.04.08 14:51

Not sure what Mark’s problem is, but these RuMe bags look great. The box-stitched design is awesome… makes much more sense than a bag that simple meets at the bottom - how is it supposed to stand up?

Love the patterns, love the size, and most of all love the fact that they’re not made in China like so many other products - probably including the bags Mark seems to be pushing. I’ll be buying RuMe and telling all my friends to do the same.

----- Jenny 22.04.08 15:47

This is funny - I tried to order Envirosax when Notcot wrote about them awhile back…I figured I’d just order straight from the Envirosax website. Big mistake. After two + weeks of no response and no delivery of my order I had to email them SEVERAL times asking where my order was. I finally got a curt reply saying they were out of stock and I would just have to be patient. No apology or anything. I finally just canceled the order through my credit card. Even though I was so fed up with their terrible customer service, I still wanted to do my part and get some reusable bags, so against my better wishes I ordered them AGAIN from Delight.com. To my surprise, I received my order in 3 DAYS AND with a nice thank you note!
To be honest, after finally getting my bags, I wasn’t really all too thrilled with them (too girly, too hard to hold groceries in my car), and I’ve always wondered what all the hype was about with this company. I can’t even believe how rude they really are - especially with all the press they get. What is really amazing is that they would be openly mean to such a great company and promoter of their products like Delight.
These guys really seem to be on a high horse - and doesnt Envirosax still make their bags in China? I’m going to give these RuMes another go - if for no other reason than reading this blog post. At least I know that if I’m still not crazy about these bags, I have the pleasure of doing business with a nice company like Delight again.

----- James 22.04.08 15:58

Dear Sarah and BK,

Can I recommend a four minute cold shower using an Envirosax shower timer.

Thanks for the great feedback

Regards

Mark

----- mark 22.04.08 16:09

Dear Mark,

Here’s a tip: Forget about the old saying ‘stop while you’re ahead’, you need to stop while you’re not too far behind!

Let’s recap - a competitor launched a better bag than yours, and all you can come up with is a lame post about a similar picture, a shower and a timer? What’s wrong with you? You ramble about “original thought” … did you invent the bag? The car? The bag in a car? Are you claiming that your bag is the first ever reusable bag?

Because it’s not, I’ve owned my Chico bags for years now. Oh, and I’ll be buying RuMe too.

Take my advice, either go back to the drawing board and try to match the superior product that RuMe has come up with, or alternatively start a blog about a bitchy lame ass who can’t handle a little competition. Your call.

----- Wendy 22.04.08 17:22

Mark got owned so badly even Jesus lol’d.

After this brilliant display of professionalism on Environsax part, I am fully convince that I will NOT ever do business with the company. Way to go Mark, you’ve just dug yourself into a publicity nightmare.

----- Dave 22.04.08 18:16

Mark, please let me know when you shut down and/or kill yourself. I’ll give you $150 for envirosax.com — I’m thinking about marketing some eco-friendly breast implants.

----- Hotwani 22.04.08 18:24

Wow! this is getting a little personal, but being a college lecturer myself it is good to see young people showing such spirit. Thanks for all the great publicity guys, just remember everytime you write a comment to write the word Envirosax or even better www.envirosax.com Sorry guys, have to run to work on the eco-friendly breast implant idea.

Regards

Mark

----- mark 22.04.08 18:47

Wow…I’m not even in the market for an Envirosax or RuME bag but this thread has compelled me to contribute.

Mark, mate, a sincere ‘hats off’ for putting such an environmentally responsible product to market…the mere fact that your product is driving others to copy/emmulate should make you feel proud and give you a big dose of self worth. You’ve been a catalyst - you’ve inspsired others to take action…environmentally beneficial action whose effects could (who knows?) potentially grow and grow and be significant for hundreds of years.

Being a college lecturer is also a great achievement. Being both a college lecturer and successful product developer/marketer/seller should make you feel really accomplished. Add to that the fact that your product is good for the Earth….wow, on paper you are a saint.

All of that makes it so interesting to see your reactions on this blog. You’ve done yourself no favours getting caught up in petty argument. There’s nothing witty about it. It sends the impression that you’re petulant and immature.

I don’t reckon that you genuinely are petulant or immature…I don’t think you could have achieved what you have if you were. But, after reading this blog that’s the conclusion that I’d come to.
I know you’d be passionate and protective about your product - good, you should be. But mate no one likes a smart ***, worse than that, no one wants to buy a product from a smart ***.

Right now RuMe is a valid competitor…and from all accounts sounds like a superior product (no one cares if you were first, people want to buy what’s best, not what came first). I reckon you’re helping RuMe get momentum by behaving like a turkey….mate if you don’t check yourself R.U.M.E could very easily end up an ironic acronym for “the RUining of Mark Ecosax”

CJ

----- CJ 23.04.08 06:39

Late to the convo I guess, but I vote RuMe!!!

----- andrea p 23.04.08 07:03

Mark,


Do you believe in your product? You don’t mention where it is the superior product anywhere. Good luck on the “nanner-nanner boo-boo; you suck” advertising campaign. Will you in fact be able to belittle and berate every single potential consumer of yours? I am not sure of your end goal with this campaign, but you are immensely successful in advertising your raving insecurities.

Does anyone own Evirosucks.com?

----- norm deplume 23.04.08 10:05

Well, I went onto Delight.com at the suggestion of a friend and just fell in love with the site. With Earth Week and everything I was inspired to do my part. So, I went looking for the reusable bags. I love the design of the RuMe’s, but opted for the “other guy” (no free publicity from me!) because of the carrying case. I haven’t received the bags, since I only ordered them two days ago, but I’m already sorry that I opted for the “Mr. Stuck on himself” product. After reading this blog, I’ve decided to send those bags straight back to Delight.com……and for their trouble, I will order two sets of RuMe’s instead.

So you “other guys”, you know who you are…..Mr. Lecturer himself, you should be reminded that along with treating the earth better, we should also treat each other better. Reducing global warming, helping the earth, protecting our children’s futures, and bringing smiles to our fellow man should go hand in hand.

So, lecture all you want…..I have learned a thing or two from you……and that is to just smile, walk away and stop listening to your banter. The earth is polluted enough without also polluting it with your bad vibes.

Mitzy

----- Mitzy 24.04.08 18:50

i am an inveterate and loyal envirosax buyer, even through recent price hikes — got my RUME bags today and will be trying them out — IMHO both kinds of bags (and the CHICO & REUSEABLE BAGS, reisenthal) are viable and useful, the envirosax is definitely much smaller to carry in a city bag and the RUME ia boxier & possibly stronger.

the IDEA is to promote and use reusable bags, which i do — so whatever you use, set the example & show them to everyone!!!

peace.

----- sara 24.04.08 20:34

I am a fellow blogger, and Mark has left similar crude messages on my blog as well. (i’d leave my site name but I don’t want to deal with him again) Don’t buy their crappy product, which I did. one of the bags split totally in half after the first use. it took me three weeks and several phone calls to get a replacement and THEN a snap broke on another bag! These people are a sham, mean, and poor business people. I’m glad to see new ideas in the market. And yes, the RuMe bags do look like a new idea to me!

----- a.k. 25.04.08 05:31

I love Envirosaxes, and I have bought quite a few from the Australian online store. No issues with delivery (it was very fast and I’m not in Australia), and when I had one snap that broke - out of a total of 20 bags I bought total, there was very good customer service and I was sent a replacement bag within the week.

That said, if the comments above really were made by Mark, they are in extremely poor taste. I don’t think the Rume bags look much like Envirosax at all, and they have several differentiating factors (slightly heavier load carrying, floppy vs. stiffer material, different placement of straps, different use of strap closures (velcro vs. snap), box vs tote shape, and one is made in China while the other is made in South Korea).

----- GA 25.04.08 22:56

actually.. no matter rume or envirosax, i think as long as they play a part in helping us reduce the use of plastic bags, it’s good.

----- Gwen 27.04.08 22:29

This blog has helped me to decide to go for the RuMe bags - thanks for the info! I love delight.com and they’re customer service is wonderful.

----- Hope K 29.04.08 07:32

So Mark says a few immature things and insinuates that he’s associated with envirosax, although he doesn’t have anything to back that up - and suddenly we’re all swearing off envirosax and snatching up RuMe’s…
There’s no way an employee would represent their own company like this, unless A. they hated their job or B. they were an idiot.
Thus, the conspiracist in me is saying - Mark is a YuMe employee, and he is effectively losing envirosax their customers!

----- Jessica 30.04.08 22:03

Jessica - a quick google of “Mark Envirosax” will show you instantly that he is indeed the co-founder of Envirosax with his wife Belinda. So, your theory is wrong. Mark really is a jerk.

----- Lisa M. 02.05.08 06:09

Well, just as readers of notcot.com can do a quick google search - RuMe sellers can as well. There is still no substantial evidence to back up that the actual Envirosax’s Mark has been leaving these comments. So, unless someone can get a hold of Mark so that he can personally answer the question “Are you really this big of an idiot jerk,” then my conspiracy theory still stands. ;)

----- Jessica 02.05.08 23:36

Just picked up some RuMes from delight and got them in record speed. I even popped for the patterns and though I was worried about being too girly, they’re actually really cool. Plus they fold up flat and fit in my back pocket.

----- adam 03.05.08 08:47

Loving my Envirosax and just ordered some RuMe bags, too. Found a GREAT comparison chart that shows the differences between the Envirosax, RuMe and the Chico bags… really helped me to decide. I opted for a set of the Valley Solids cause I think hubby will use them, too.

Here’s a link to the chart (top of the page):

http://www.brightandbold.com/reusablebags.html

----- Jessie 06.05.08 06:19

I am yet another store owner who has unfortunately met Mark & Belinda and heard many grumblings of their & Envirosax’ shoddy reputation from peers in the biz. He is a jerk.

----- M.K.L. 08.05.08 13:39

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